Snyder Family 2016 - Person Sheet
Spouses
Marriageabt 855
ChildrenRaymond II (-924)
Ermengaud (-937)
Notes for Garsinde De Albi
Notes:
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:35).
On 15 Dec 1997, Todd Farmerie posted the ancestry of TERESA ALFONSO (RIN 2401) based on the latest research. This generation is confirmed in that posting.
1. Raimond_II
2. Ermengaud
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:35).
On 15 Dec 1997, Todd Farmerie posted the ancestry of TERESA ALFONSO (RIN 2401) based on the latest research. This generation is confirmed in that posting.
1. Raimond_II
2. Ermengaud
Notes for Eudes (Spouse 1)
Notes:
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:36), (326:35).
On 21 Nov 1997, Todd A. Farmerie posted the following regarding new research on this family:
> 1a.Fredolon, Count of Toulouse, succeeded by brother:
> 1b.Raymond I, Count of Toulouse
> 2a.Bernard, Count of Toulouse (attempts have been made to make
> Raymond I, Count of Pallars and Ribagorza son of Bernard
> (based primarily on nomenclature, but I don't buy it.)
> 2b.Eudes, Count of Toulouse [i.e this individual]
> 3a.Raymond II, Count of Toulouse
> 4a.Raymond III Pons, Count of Toulouse
> 3b.Ermengaud, Count of Rouergue
> 4b.Raymond, Count of Rouergue
It was Raymond of Rouergue who married Bertha and was father of Raymond and grandfather of Hugh of Rouergue. Raymond III Pons married a Guinilda, and has traditionally been shown as father or grandfather of the William in question (the intervening Pons was actually a brother of William, and never Count). Guinilda continued to appear as Raymond Pons' widow much later. Also Raymond of Rouergue appears in some official capacity, and a minority of authors have suggested that Raymond Pons died childless (or at least sonless) and that Raymond of Rouergue succeeded to the County of Toulouse. We now also have that previously misplaced Raymond, husband of Adelaide and father of William, who can not be positively identified in any contemporary charters. What we are left with is massive confusion. One author (of the AB article) goes out on a limb and claims that Raymond, husband of Adelaide, was son of Raymond of Rouergue by an earlier wife than Bertha (and hence distinct from half-brother Raymond II, Count of Rouergue), while the author of the Moyen Age article is more cautious, giving this version equal weight to a more traditional descent from Raymond Pons, with the new Raymond as RP's son. This question clearly requires a more detailed reevaluation than what has been given it thus far.
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:36), (326:35).
On 21 Nov 1997, Todd A. Farmerie posted the following regarding new research on this family:
> 1a.Fredolon, Count of Toulouse, succeeded by brother:
> 1b.Raymond I, Count of Toulouse
> 2a.Bernard, Count of Toulouse (attempts have been made to make
> Raymond I, Count of Pallars and Ribagorza son of Bernard
> (based primarily on nomenclature, but I don't buy it.)
> 2b.Eudes, Count of Toulouse [i.e this individual]
> 3a.Raymond II, Count of Toulouse
> 4a.Raymond III Pons, Count of Toulouse
> 3b.Ermengaud, Count of Rouergue
> 4b.Raymond, Count of Rouergue
It was Raymond of Rouergue who married Bertha and was father of Raymond and grandfather of Hugh of Rouergue. Raymond III Pons married a Guinilda, and has traditionally been shown as father or grandfather of the William in question (the intervening Pons was actually a brother of William, and never Count). Guinilda continued to appear as Raymond Pons' widow much later. Also Raymond of Rouergue appears in some official capacity, and a minority of authors have suggested that Raymond Pons died childless (or at least sonless) and that Raymond of Rouergue succeeded to the County of Toulouse. We now also have that previously misplaced Raymond, husband of Adelaide and father of William, who can not be positively identified in any contemporary charters. What we are left with is massive confusion. One author (of the AB article) goes out on a limb and claims that Raymond, husband of Adelaide, was son of Raymond of Rouergue by an earlier wife than Bertha (and hence distinct from half-brother Raymond II, Count of Rouergue), while the author of the Moyen Age article is more cautious, giving this version equal weight to a more traditional descent from Raymond Pons, with the new Raymond as RP's son. This question clearly requires a more detailed reevaluation than what has been given it thus far.