Snyder Family 2016 - Person Sheet
NameBeatrice De Beauchamp 
Birthabt 1107, Bedfordshire, England
DeathEngland
FatherPayne (Peganus) De Beauchamp (~1118-1157)
MotherRoheise (Roesia) De Vere (~1070-)
Spouses
Birthabt 1106, Burgh-By-Sands, Cumberland, England
Death1162
FatherSimon De Morville (~1079-)
MotherAda De Engayne (~1081-)
ChildrenRichard (~1143-1189)
Notes for Beatrice De Beauchamp
Notes
On 30 Jan 96 Kathleen Much posted to me by email : "I can't find the reference just now, but somewhere I found that Beatrice's father was Robert de Beauchamp; I don't know who her mother was. If Beatrice or her father had siblings, I didn't collect them. If she was the heiress of her grandfather, though, she probably didn't have surviving brothers or uncles. (Granted, her inheritance from her
grandfather does not prove that she got ALL his property, and I haven't traced his holdings to see.) There is an anecdote I once saw about Beatrice and Hugh de Morville to
the effect that her lover attacked Hugh with a sword but that she cried out in English to warn Hugh. It was used as evidence that the Scoto-Normans could speak English, perhaps in preference to French. Hugh and Beatrice are commemorated on a plaque at Dryburgh Abbey and at least Hugh is supposed to be buried there (I think Beatrice was, too, but it's
been years since I was there). W.H. Turton, _The Plantagenet Ancestry_ (1928, reprinted Baltimore 1968), says Beatrice de Beauchamp was the daughter of Pagan de
Beauchamp and Rohese de Vere; Pagan was the son of Hugh de Beauchamp (c. 1066) and Rohese the daughter of Alberic de Vere (d. 1141) and Adeliza de Clare. Of course, you know the pitfalls of believing Turton. I won't have time to hunt up the other source for a while, but something led me to believe it over Turton when I entered Robert in my database. When I converted it from PAF to Reunion, some of my footnotes
got lost."
Richard Borthwick posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 26 Jan 1997:
Subject: Re: The Beauchamps Followup #1 (in part): "Saunder's *English Baronies* pp.10-12 discusses the barony of Bedford. . . Saunders does not mention Beatrice but I have a note saying she is attested as sister of Payn de Beauchamp, daughter of Robert and
wife of Hugh de Morville (d.1162).
On 30 Jan 96 Kathleen Much posted to me by email : "I can't find the reference just now, but somewhere I found that Beatrice's father was Robert de Beauchamp; I don't know who her mother was. If Beatrice or her father had siblings, I didn't collect them. If she was the heiress of her grandfather, though, she probably didn't have surviving brothers or uncles. (Granted, her inheritance from her
grandfather does not prove that she got ALL his property, and I haven't traced his holdings to see.) There is an anecdote I once saw about Beatrice and Hugh de Morville to
the effect that her lover attacked Hugh with a sword but that she cried out in English to warn Hugh. It was used as evidence that the Scoto-Normans could speak English, perhaps in preference to French. Hugh and Beatrice are commemorated on a plaque at Dryburgh Abbey and at least Hugh is supposed to be buried there (I think Beatrice was, too, but it's
been years since I was there). W.H. Turton, _The Plantagenet Ancestry_ (1928, reprinted Baltimore 1968), says Beatrice de Beauchamp was the daughter of Pagan de
Beauchamp and Rohese de Vere; Pagan was the son of Hugh de Beauchamp (c. 1066) and Rohese the daughter of Alberic de Vere (d. 1141) and Adeliza de Clare. Of course, you know the pitfalls of believing Turton. I won't have time to hunt up the other source for a while, but something led me to believe it over Turton when I entered Robert in my database. When I converted it from PAF to Reunion, some of my footnotes
got lost."
Richard Borthwick posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 26 Jan 1997:
Subject: Re: The Beauchamps Followup #1 (in part): "Saunder's *English Baronies* pp.10-12 discusses the barony of Bedford. . . Saunders does not mention Beatrice but I have a note saying she is attested as sister of Payn de Beauchamp, daughter of Robert and
wife of Hugh de Morville (d.1162).
Notes for Hugh (Spouse 1)
Notes:
Morville is from Morville, a few kilometres south-west of Brix, and the Morvilles were prominent tenants on the Honour of Huntingdon. The family's main stem were vassals of the Norman Honour of Vernon, which had its caput at Nehou a few miles further south. The closeness of the Scottish Morvilles to the Norman and Wessex lines of the family is shown by the fact that Morville charters in Scotland were witnessed by Alexander de Nehou, Richard de Nehou, and William de Nehou. Hugh de Morville came from Burg in Cumberland. He became Constable of Scotland. He was the original founder of the monastery of Dryburgh, and died in1162.
It is possible that SIMON DE MOREVILLE (RIN 3091) was his brother.
Morville is from Morville, a few kilometres south-west of Brix, and the Morvilles were prominent tenants on the Honour of Huntingdon. The family's main stem were vassals of the Norman Honour of Vernon, which had its caput at Nehou a few miles further south. The closeness of the Scottish Morvilles to the Norman and Wessex lines of the family is shown by the fact that Morville charters in Scotland were witnessed by Alexander de Nehou, Richard de Nehou, and William de Nehou. Hugh de Morville came from Burg in Cumberland. He became Constable of Scotland. He was the original founder of the monastery of Dryburgh, and died in1162.
It is possible that SIMON DE MOREVILLE (RIN 3091) was his brother.